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<----- Groot is a tree. This icon totally makes sense for this post.

Um, why is the episode called "In the Forest of the Night" when it's set exclusively during the day? I suppose, "In the Forest of the Day" doesn't sound as dramatic.

Yeah, who else figured out that the trees were good well before the end of the episode? Actually, I've seen an episode like this before. Stargate Atlantis also had an episode where a coronal mass ejection was going to destroy the planet and nature started to act differently to warn the team. Okay, so the SGA episode had alien whales and they didn't directly save the planet, but the plot twist is the same. The weird thing happening is a sign of a bad thing about to happen. I'm just glad the resolution for Doctor Who's episode didn't involve the Doctor using the TARDIS to deflect the coronal mass ejection. Did any of the Who-y science make sense? Wait, did I just use "Who" and "science" and "sense" in the same sentence? Silly me.

As for the actual episode, meh, it was all right. I expected a bigger blow up between Clara and Danny about her lying. She's just lying with everyone. She lied to the Doctor about Danny being fine with her travelling. She lied to Danny about hanging out with the Doctor. And maybe she's been lying about herself the entire time (but more on that later). Danny is a very, very good guy if he can be that understanding and that patient while Clara continually keeps secrets from him. I just wish he would travel with Clara and the Doctor. I know he gives his reason why for not wanting to, but it'd be fun to have all three of them kicking about the universe. Of course, at this point, Danny travelling in the TARDIS seems unlikely since the finale is apparently starting next week.

It was fun seeing the Doctor with the kids. I was slightly worried that the kids would be annoying, but the ones with lines were kind of amusing. I liked Ruby the best, though Maebh was cute, too. Ruby's comment about X being at the top of the triangle just made me laugh. "It's not lost." I like that the Doctor is never mean to a child. And it was so funny when he's basically giving the group a lesson about the coronal mass ejection. They're just sitting there on the stairs, staring blankly at him. Lucky kids who got to play the students. That must have been an awesome experience for them.

The rest of the episode was just everyone wandering around a forest. I kind of felt like nothing really happened. The trees showed up, the trees went away. There were wolves and a tiger and Nelson fell off his column. The bit at the end with Clara wanting to save the Doctor was nice, though. He has definitely learned his lesson about disappearing in the middle of a crisis and it's nice that he echoes Clara's lines from the end of "Kill the Moon".

So... Clara. So, Clara Oswald has never existed? Wha? Has she been working for Missy the entire time? Did Missy purposely get Clara and the Doctor together to enact some evil, long term plan? I'm going to be super disappointed if this whole time Clara was just Missy's lackey. It was bad enough that she was the MacGuffin for last season. This season, she's gone through some great character development. I don't want to see all of that go to waste just because she's a sleeper agent or something. Of course, we're all assuming that Missy is evil. Perhaps Missy is really nice and she wanted to make sure the Doctor had an able Companion when disaster hit. Come on, it could happen, right? Right?

Next week does look interesting. Kate and Osgood are back, there are the new sleek Cybermen from last season, and it looked like the Doctor gets shoved out of a plane. God, I can't believe we're at the finale. I was under the impression we had one more episode before the end of the season. Damn you, Moffat!

Random: So did Missy send Maebh to the Doctor? Or did the trees? I'm kind of confused on that part. I have never heard of this writer before. Clara was wearing Chucks! Or possibly shoes that look like Chucks. Wait, if they were Chucks, then that means the soles are flat. Is Clara noticeably shorter in this episode? Or did they get Jenna Coleman a pair of Chucks with a hidden wedge so she wasn't horribly tiny beside Peter Capaldi? Since when does Clara's flat have a balcony? It was cool that they used low angles in the TARDIS, especially when Maebh first gets on board. She's small so that's what her perspective of the space and the Doctor would be like. It also makes the set look huge when it really isn't. So the year in the show is 2016 now? I always figured we were in the future, but it was never explicitly mentioned before.

I think I'm going to buy season eight on Blu-ray when it comes out. Peter Capaldi has been a joy to watch so I'm willing to fork over more money. :-)
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Date: 2014-10-25 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] newnumber6.livejournal.com
I didn't like this ep at all... the science was nonsensical, even by DW standards, it was full of weird character choices, and I generally _hate_ "something weird happens everywhere on Earth at once" eps, not to mention random magic stuff that happens for no reason other than that's what the writer wants... why does the sister come back? Cause we need a happy ending! Her disappearance didn't seem to be connected to the trees in any way, but what the hell, trees are magic, why not let them return a missing girl. Why are the only people wandering around the forest in London the kids, and the kids mom, and the people trying to burn trees? Cause we can only afford a small cast and so can't show people acting in all the myriad of different ways people really would act! And isn't it lucky that the very first time they happened to burn a tree and realize that it couldn't burn, because, magic trees!, it was in the middle of London right where the Doctor happened to be, instead of, say, right at the military base? Did they make a huge trek through the trees so they could start right there? :P Just awful hackwork right up there with the worst of RTD. :P
. The one good thing was Clara's "we're all doomed, but we're going to save you" idea... in a better episode, that might have been genius, but instead it just felt wasted (and again, Clara's weird "Well, the kids are going to be sad without their parents, so, let's just let them die!" philosophy does not make any sense to me, especially since the Doctor probably COULD round up their parents and a sizable population to start a new colony with, if he really wanted to "save who you can").

Anyway, my theory on Missy's role in this ep: she manipulated Maeve (or however it's spelled) into finding the Doctor because she wanted him to interfere... to end the forest, and get everybody killed (I don't think it would have been possible for humanity to destroy enough trees on its own to make much of a difference). Missy seems to have a habit of collecting the dead, specifically people who have been killed because of the Doctor (the one guy who was interviewed by somebody else wasn't actually killed because of the Doctor... maybe a hint why she wasn't concerned with him)... so if she could arrange for all of Earth to die, and for it to be his fault, everybody would "belong" to her.

Date: 2014-10-26 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] locker-monster.livejournal.com
Apparently this writer writes children's books so I don't know if he just got a bad plot to work with or a lot of stuff got edited out. But yeah, the plot is a mess.

I guess we'll find out who Missy is next week. If she is collecting the dead, people who died because of the Doctor's mistakes, what does she need them for? An army? She must be putting them to use for something.

Maybe Clara was actually chosen by Missy from her collection of the dead. Missy resurrected her, named her Clara, and planted her in London so the Doctor would meet her. Could tie in to the line "Clara Oswald never existed". Oh, it's all a fake-out and the trailer just makes it seem like Clara is evil. I wouldn't put it past Moffat to do that.

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